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Juan Q. Exile's avatar

From #2B:

"Anyone who grows up in a narrative, then learns to distrust it, will look for alternatives—and the first place to look is the villains in the narrative itself.

"If you land in this trap, you have failed to escape power’s frame. You’re still in the same movie—you have just switched characters."

Yarvin has identified a major problem here, perhaps THE problem.

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Very simple question: why would detachment work any better than dissidence? The people in charge have already said that not pledging fealty to them is the same as opposing them. So, if you try to be nonpolitical, that's itself seen as a political act of a quite disreputable sort. Remember, *most* public health officials said that, *from a public health point of view*, the *best* thing to do was take part in the George Floyd protests. Consequently, insofar as you didn't protest, you were actually endangering public health.

Trying to check out is just *being* a dissident. Indeed, even if all dissidents just gave up and said we won't resist--no one ran as a Republican, no one protested even the most elaborate and radical rituals, there would just be a new way of being described as a dissident: lack of enthusiasm, for instance.

But the point is, you can't *not* have dissidents. To take an extreme example: if the powers that be said, "all white babies must be aborted" or "all wealth from white people must be expropriated and devoted to blacks as reparations", there's just no way that wouldn't cause pushback. And that's kind of the point: if you're right that dissidence helps the regime, then the regime can just up its demands until it can guarantee dissident reactions. That's just a matter of human psychology.

But: you're not right. The cathedral is not invulnerable. It's a human state of affairs. If the Chinese started using clever psy-ops against the USA, the cathedral would be kind of powerless -- it's one thing for the Russians to be the bad guys; they're white. It's quite another for the Chinese to be -- it calls to mind too many uncomfortable associations with Japanese internment camps. The Cathedral, just like the bourgeoisie, or the capitalists, or the vanguard, makes mistakes. There are market failures (e.g., the NYT has to get ever more extreme for risk of alienating its employees, but the more extreme it gets, the smaller its market share and the more opportunities it creates for competitors). There are government failures (e.g., the iron law of bureaucracy means that government officials will tend to choose advancing their own interests over the interests of the institution).

And look, you have to give a pretty good argument for thinking that history is both deterministic and teleological. Even if history is teleological, I'm highly skeptical that it's deterministically so.

tl;dr: (a) if it were true that serving power and being a dissident just serves power, then detachment would just serve power as well; and (b) it's not true that being a dissident always serves power.

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