Curtis has been called out by Nick Land in “Cold Anarchy”, a new essay. Land asserts that Curtis’ repeated warnings not to provoke the US regime by word or deed has in effect “domesticated” and neutered him. (Thus his recent preoccupation with institution design, a kind of fiddling while Rome burns, Land into lies). Consider the challenge to duel delivered, Mr. Y.
A little weird considering Land himself has advocated for 'exitism' for Gnon knows how long now. Haven't read the essay though so whatever.
Also I gotta say, Land is an interesting character and the core of his ideas is both correct and relevant IMO. Shame Curtis won't engage with him on at least some level.
Land ascribes to Disunity, Disaggregation, Decentralization. He sees Curtis' monarchism as aspiring to Unity, a something which cannot be--and that Land, like all true liberals and all true conservatives, is glad cannot be. He contrasts Curtis' obsession with domestic political structures with his own obsession with inter-nodal, international, non-domestic dynamics. He contrasts Curtis' American King who alone will proscribe a new order with the cold anarchy of endlessly competing and jostling nations producing a spontaneous, ever-mutating new order. He contrasts cold anarchy with hot anarchy--the latter utopian, molten, action-mad. He seems to see Gray Mirror's trajectory as having arced inevitably towards some large, defiant hot anarchic moment only to veer and stall following the emergence of an even vaster Leviathan with a still vaster Enemies List. It is this veer and stall that seems to prompt Land's charge that Curtis has been "domesticated" and left with only irony.
Very cool journal- thanks for sharing. I read Nick Land’s essay, it was fun read, enjoyed the structure, use of language, but could not gather directly his idea or criticism of moldbug’s description of the three forms of government/ power. One thing I’ve always enjoyed about Moldbug’s writing is his clear and concise way of making his points and analysis, no matter how complex the idea. I think that is part of his art.
Can confirm. I keep wanting to like Nick Land, but every treatise I read or interview I hear, by the end of it I'm thoroughly confused, trying to figure out if Land is a nut job or too smart/insightful for me to understand. But when I finish a Yarvin piece in any format, I always feel it was clear and inspiring, humbled in my education yet invited to participate in his vision, and I can't wait for a new regime.
Not to mention his Twitter is mostly boomer nonsense and his knowledge of foreign affairs is lackluster. Using Twitter is a great way to find yourself talking about things you don’t understand, and I’m glad Curtis doesn’t.
What is the motivation to hold a governance token? Forgive me if I missed something. Does the token represent some kind of ownership of the organization?
My lord, I understand that engagement is a significant step, and yet not the final commitment nor promise that it seems from either party. It hasn't begun until the fat lady sings. I believe it too early for you divulge much detail, but upon your wedding ceremony, you absolutely must spill the beans! How did you meet? How wonderful and worthy is she in what ways? This all seems so sudden, how were you so positive that you were not rushing into something foolhardy? Please sir, the peasants demand an exposition when the time comes!
PS The flowery prose and faux titles of fealty are totally gay RP'ing, let's be real. But it's kind of hilarious and I like looking the part, acting it out. It'll be nice one day to act in conformity and dedication to a leadership I actually trust. Plus the capes and ermine will be pretty sweet.
The only part of the OAO I have trouble seeing in real life is the crypto-military, for reasons others have posted. My question is why does it have to be crypto weapons to ensure loyalty? How did monarchies thwart coups in the past without crypto swords? If monarchies are the oldest and most successful form of government, there are many other more practical solutions.
Would you mind turning comments on for Butterfly Trump Revolution?
No?
Allow me the grace to comment here; to begin no one with military training and especially experience will register or share this with any political movement- this world also include the police (like State and CIA these are usually same people, same families, blood relatives, clusters of families over generations). That takes all the real muscle off the table.
The proposal doesn’t rise to the level of seriousness to justify the risk.
Which brings us to the former voters - we’ll see in the fall but I’ll guess they won’t bother. We are all Fred Reed now.
Its not worth the grief.
In a struggle where will is a factor you have to want it more, as opposed to not wanting it at all= Dodo 🦤 🇺🇸 Americanus.
This presumes that elites have not set off nuclear war in a sort of arson insurance scheme to rid themselves of their domestic enemies. They seem to be trying hard.
So you may want to accept war whether you desire it or No~ for the Elites desire war and always get what they want.
Indeed the U.S. is not in the stage of its cycle wherein the vested interests of various sectors of the populace have sufficient incentive for a full power restart—both secession and full power restart are onanistic fantasy. Russia was at that stage when Putin seized power after the IMF’s entrapment of Yeltsin. Russia isn’t a dynamic enough juggernaut to resist the globalist NWO empire which is rising to supplant the U.S. empire and whose theory-of-power raison d’être will include restoring order to the multipolar power vacuum and forthcoming war in satellite space.
Butterfly Trump Revolution is at least a solution. There may be holes. But the technical foundation itself—the app—is excellent, new(to me), and viable.
Your comment is pointing out a problem with his solution.
Why not point out a solution to your problem with Curtis’ solution?
Personally though I think the regime-in-waiting should be a state government of a based red state. That would provide the needed tax base and authority.
I'm going to do a poll of Gulf Coast red-states to find which one is most pro-secession. Contact me at admin @ redstatesecession.org if you want to suggest a question for the poll.
And when the seniors lose their Medicaid/Social Security, state citizens are banned from the U.S. dollar financial system and from travel to the other states, banks stop loaning to Floridastan, interest rates skyrocket to 18%, mortgage market collapses, etc? The southern states tried to secede preceding the Civil War and were militarily defeated. Is Floridastan’s military any match for the U.S. Air Force and nukes?
No state can unhitch until the abject collective collapse is worse than the alternative, which is projecting several decades out from now.
My first thought was "can't an enemy block the signal to unlock the weapons?" My second thought was, "wait - our nuclear arsenal is dependent on a signal from the nuclear football!"
Curtis has been called out by Nick Land in “Cold Anarchy”, a new essay. Land asserts that Curtis’ repeated warnings not to provoke the US regime by word or deed has in effect “domesticated” and neutered him. (Thus his recent preoccupation with institution design, a kind of fiddling while Rome burns, Land into lies). Consider the challenge to duel delivered, Mr. Y.
A little weird considering Land himself has advocated for 'exitism' for Gnon knows how long now. Haven't read the essay though so whatever.
Also I gotta say, Land is an interesting character and the core of his ideas is both correct and relevant IMO. Shame Curtis won't engage with him on at least some level.
Land ascribes to Disunity, Disaggregation, Decentralization. He sees Curtis' monarchism as aspiring to Unity, a something which cannot be--and that Land, like all true liberals and all true conservatives, is glad cannot be. He contrasts Curtis' obsession with domestic political structures with his own obsession with inter-nodal, international, non-domestic dynamics. He contrasts Curtis' American King who alone will proscribe a new order with the cold anarchy of endlessly competing and jostling nations producing a spontaneous, ever-mutating new order. He contrasts cold anarchy with hot anarchy--the latter utopian, molten, action-mad. He seems to see Gray Mirror's trajectory as having arced inevitably towards some large, defiant hot anarchic moment only to veer and stall following the emergence of an even vaster Leviathan with a still vaster Enemies List. It is this veer and stall that seems to prompt Land's charge that Curtis has been "domesticated" and left with only irony.
As a Taoist, I can see Land and Yarvin is really up the Yin-Yang with this one. Exploding anarchy followed by eternal disaggregation cannot last. 分久必合
The answer is Nick Fuentes.
America’s answer to a question no one asked
Where can I read this essay?
"Agorism in the 21st Century", a new philosophy journal. You can download issue at no cost.
Very cool journal- thanks for sharing. I read Nick Land’s essay, it was fun read, enjoyed the structure, use of language, but could not gather directly his idea or criticism of moldbug’s description of the three forms of government/ power. One thing I’ve always enjoyed about Moldbug’s writing is his clear and concise way of making his points and analysis, no matter how complex the idea. I think that is part of his art.
Can confirm. I keep wanting to like Nick Land, but every treatise I read or interview I hear, by the end of it I'm thoroughly confused, trying to figure out if Land is a nut job or too smart/insightful for me to understand. But when I finish a Yarvin piece in any format, I always feel it was clear and inspiring, humbled in my education yet invited to participate in his vision, and I can't wait for a new regime.
Not to mention his Twitter is mostly boomer nonsense and his knowledge of foreign affairs is lackluster. Using Twitter is a great way to find yourself talking about things you don’t understand, and I’m glad Curtis doesn’t.
What is the motivation to hold a governance token? Forgive me if I missed something. Does the token represent some kind of ownership of the organization?
https://www.amazon.com/Network-State-Balaji-Srinivasan-ebook/dp/B09VPKZR3G
My lord, I understand that engagement is a significant step, and yet not the final commitment nor promise that it seems from either party. It hasn't begun until the fat lady sings. I believe it too early for you divulge much detail, but upon your wedding ceremony, you absolutely must spill the beans! How did you meet? How wonderful and worthy is she in what ways? This all seems so sudden, how were you so positive that you were not rushing into something foolhardy? Please sir, the peasants demand an exposition when the time comes!
PS The flowery prose and faux titles of fealty are totally gay RP'ing, let's be real. But it's kind of hilarious and I like looking the part, acting it out. It'll be nice one day to act in conformity and dedication to a leadership I actually trust. Plus the capes and ermine will be pretty sweet.
The only part of the OAO I have trouble seeing in real life is the crypto-military, for reasons others have posted. My question is why does it have to be crypto weapons to ensure loyalty? How did monarchies thwart coups in the past without crypto swords? If monarchies are the oldest and most successful form of government, there are many other more practical solutions.
Would you mind turning comments on for Butterfly Trump Revolution?
No?
Allow me the grace to comment here; to begin no one with military training and especially experience will register or share this with any political movement- this world also include the police (like State and CIA these are usually same people, same families, blood relatives, clusters of families over generations). That takes all the real muscle off the table.
The proposal doesn’t rise to the level of seriousness to justify the risk.
Which brings us to the former voters - we’ll see in the fall but I’ll guess they won’t bother. We are all Fred Reed now.
Its not worth the grief.
In a struggle where will is a factor you have to want it more, as opposed to not wanting it at all= Dodo 🦤 🇺🇸 Americanus.
This presumes that elites have not set off nuclear war in a sort of arson insurance scheme to rid themselves of their domestic enemies. They seem to be trying hard.
So you may want to accept war whether you desire it or No~ for the Elites desire war and always get what they want.
Indeed the U.S. is not in the stage of its cycle wherein the vested interests of various sectors of the populace have sufficient incentive for a full power restart—both secession and full power restart are onanistic fantasy. Russia was at that stage when Putin seized power after the IMF’s entrapment of Yeltsin. Russia isn’t a dynamic enough juggernaut to resist the globalist NWO empire which is rising to supplant the U.S. empire and whose theory-of-power raison d’être will include restoring order to the multipolar power vacuum and forthcoming war in satellite space.
Butterfly Trump Revolution is at least a solution. There may be holes. But the technical foundation itself—the app—is excellent, new(to me), and viable.
Your comment is pointing out a problem with his solution.
Why not point out a solution to your problem with Curtis’ solution?
Great thing about an OAO is that it can be the design of a regime-in-waiting (see https://graymirror.substack.com/p/the-butterfly-revolution)
Personally though I think the regime-in-waiting should be a state government of a based red state. That would provide the needed tax base and authority.
I'm going to do a poll of Gulf Coast red-states to find which one is most pro-secession. Contact me at admin @ redstatesecession.org if you want to suggest a question for the poll.
Read my response to Curtis Yarvin's black pills here: https://redstatesecession.org/secession-is-the-short-cut-to-right-wing-victory/
And when the seniors lose their Medicaid/Social Security, state citizens are banned from the U.S. dollar financial system and from travel to the other states, banks stop loaning to Floridastan, interest rates skyrocket to 18%, mortgage market collapses, etc? The southern states tried to secede preceding the Civil War and were militarily defeated. Is Floridastan’s military any match for the U.S. Air Force and nukes?
No state can unhitch until the abject collective collapse is worse than the alternative, which is projecting several decades out from now.
Hoo the luckey wench u engaejung?
I am starting to feel like "Machiavelli wrote The Prince as satire" vibes here. Maybe this whole idea, ain't it chief?
My first thought was "can't an enemy block the signal to unlock the weapons?" My second thought was, "wait - our nuclear arsenal is dependent on a signal from the nuclear football!"