Hell yes, Morris! I had a very similar life, and my ultimate boss in the PUA world was a girlfriend I finally landed and committed to, I figured she was a 10/10 and very conscientious... But I did still like to party a bit. In the negotiations of trying to get to that next level, she wanted me to mortgage a house and let her move in, before getting married. I said no no, we get married first, then I buy the house. As you say, why should I comply when I'm not getting a wife out of the deal? This back and forth went on for 2 more years, until finally I said "If we had a timeline on getting married, maybe I'd jump some hoops." She said "What if we just dated for 7 years or something and never actually got married?" I said "I'm done with you, then. Now. I'm not wasting that much of my life to find out." Of course, she married someone else 5 months later, a la 500 Days Of Summer.
But it worked out. The next woman I took seriously was not as attractive, but was every bit as serious about what it takes for marriage to work out. We have four children together, 10 years later. My ex was recently in the news being fired for embezzling from an NGO, lol.
OK, finished reading the whole letter. Rings are uncomfortable and weird (as are earrings and all other jewelry, especially the kind that pierces your skin - just step back and think about it...). I bought some after a creep tried to chat me up on a bus, but I don't take the bus anymore. Don't judge.
I guess he's 26, though, so how could he not judge.
Still, he's crossed a maturity threshold. I remember I crossed a very distinct threshold around 24 when I went from thinking I'll want to be child-free forever to definitely knowing I would feel like I've lived a defective life if I didn't have kids. Like Jordan Peterson's lecture for this Swede, for me, there was a distinct trigger event. But, I think at some age we are simply ready to hear the message, and before that age, we aren't.
Then I kinda fell into a relationship that dragged for four years, in large part because it was long-distance. This forced me to think about proposing, which forced me to think of myself for the first time as a potential husband and father. Then she dumped me, finally admitting that we're not really compatible.
We shall note that many people get married and get divorced anyway.
I don't know how that works. Like, how did Bill and Melinda Gates divorce, after many years and many shared projects? In my understanding, you'd have to get consistently nasty and cold towards each other to cross that line.
You're a man. Clean yourself up, put your past and your bitterness behind you, make peace with it, and find a woman young enough to build a family with. There are enough men in your place that nobody will think this is weird in 5 years.
Hell yes, Morris! I had a very similar life, and my ultimate boss in the PUA world was a girlfriend I finally landed and committed to, I figured she was a 10/10 and very conscientious... But I did still like to party a bit. In the negotiations of trying to get to that next level, she wanted me to mortgage a house and let her move in, before getting married. I said no no, we get married first, then I buy the house. As you say, why should I comply when I'm not getting a wife out of the deal? This back and forth went on for 2 more years, until finally I said "If we had a timeline on getting married, maybe I'd jump some hoops." She said "What if we just dated for 7 years or something and never actually got married?" I said "I'm done with you, then. Now. I'm not wasting that much of my life to find out." Of course, she married someone else 5 months later, a la 500 Days Of Summer.
But it worked out. The next woman I took seriously was not as attractive, but was every bit as serious about what it takes for marriage to work out. We have four children together, 10 years later. My ex was recently in the news being fired for embezzling from an NGO, lol.
OK, finished reading the whole letter. Rings are uncomfortable and weird (as are earrings and all other jewelry, especially the kind that pierces your skin - just step back and think about it...). I bought some after a creep tried to chat me up on a bus, but I don't take the bus anymore. Don't judge.
I guess he's 26, though, so how could he not judge.
Still, he's crossed a maturity threshold. I remember I crossed a very distinct threshold around 24 when I went from thinking I'll want to be child-free forever to definitely knowing I would feel like I've lived a defective life if I didn't have kids. Like Jordan Peterson's lecture for this Swede, for me, there was a distinct trigger event. But, I think at some age we are simply ready to hear the message, and before that age, we aren't.
I said he's a Swede, but it's now obvious to me Curtis is making up names and locations.
This is king shit.
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In my early twenties dating sucked for me.
Then I kinda fell into a relationship that dragged for four years, in large part because it was long-distance. This forced me to think about proposing, which forced me to think of myself for the first time as a potential husband and father. Then she dumped me, finally admitting that we're not really compatible.
After that dating was great.
We shall note that many people get married and get divorced anyway.
I don't know how that works. Like, how did Bill and Melinda Gates divorce, after many years and many shared projects? In my understanding, you'd have to get consistently nasty and cold towards each other to cross that line.
So... what was the final outcome? Success, or?
You're a man. Clean yourself up, put your past and your bitterness behind you, make peace with it, and find a woman young enough to build a family with. There are enough men in your place that nobody will think this is weird in 5 years.
No king required.
Maybe he should just try the Morris method and convert his current girlfriend into a wife.