All fair points. I think founding a separatist regime is cleaner, but it could be done through capturing the political mechanisms as you mention. I think the current political mechanism should be captured and used to break up the united states. Why go through the trouble of trying to rule Californians/ Blue states. Let THEM rule themselv…
All fair points. I think founding a separatist regime is cleaner, but it could be done through capturing the political mechanisms as you mention. I think the current political mechanism should be captured and used to break up the united states. Why go through the trouble of trying to rule Californians/ Blue states. Let THEM rule themselves. Why should worthy leaders rule over those that dont want their rule (for cultish ideological reasons)?
Yes, have worthy rulers, but give them worthy subjects. Capture the political system, break the USA up into the black states of america, Republican states of america, Democratic states of america, and maybe a european ethno-state (white israel), maybe a libertarian state aswell. Give people 5 years to move about with state assistance, withdraw travel rights between states as appropriate. I think this is going to be a lot easier than trying to rule over a cult of self humiliation and cultural destruction. And would a "governmental CEO" rather rule over the fertile lands of the north USA/ rust belt etc...or california. I know which i'd pick.
The soviety Union successfully disintegrated, it was messy because it wasn't planned. A planned disintegration would have been better. Lets do that.
Basically, the reason is to avoid war and the security nightmare that is having multiple countries in north America.
If there is an incomplete transfer of power, and the blue regime is permitted to survive, you can be certain it will be vindictive. There's the matter of our foreign clients as well. I suspect they would side with whoever promises to continue security guarantees and provide technology - with red being isolationist and tech mostly in blue coastal states, that's a problem. The question I'm really worried about is weather starving out the coastal strongholds is as easy as a lot of populists seem to believe. Those are port cities. They can ship in grain.
And I'm one to hate on California too, but I wouldn't underestimate my enemy. California has some of the most productive agricultural land, and it's the cradle of tech companies that service the entire globe. The rust belt still needs to be rebuilt - California needs to get its shit together. To any sort of monarch, California would seem extremely enticing. Of course, the agricultural productivity of California is driven by water taken from further inland, which only creates another seed of conflict.
A planned disintegration is much more likely to work than unilaterally declaring independence but you're still going to have to make compromises to avoid war and becoming collectively weaker, and I would still recommend some sort of alliance/union to try and keep foreign interference off the continent. This will mean years of negotiations and swallowing some pride, and you have to be prepared for that.
This is true and the certain results of separation are wars of Reunification and foreign entanglements of foreigners here, the geography will not allow any nation here in North America less than Atlantic to Pacific.
All fair points. I think founding a separatist regime is cleaner, but it could be done through capturing the political mechanisms as you mention. I think the current political mechanism should be captured and used to break up the united states. Why go through the trouble of trying to rule Californians/ Blue states. Let THEM rule themselves. Why should worthy leaders rule over those that dont want their rule (for cultish ideological reasons)?
Yes, have worthy rulers, but give them worthy subjects. Capture the political system, break the USA up into the black states of america, Republican states of america, Democratic states of america, and maybe a european ethno-state (white israel), maybe a libertarian state aswell. Give people 5 years to move about with state assistance, withdraw travel rights between states as appropriate. I think this is going to be a lot easier than trying to rule over a cult of self humiliation and cultural destruction. And would a "governmental CEO" rather rule over the fertile lands of the north USA/ rust belt etc...or california. I know which i'd pick.
The soviety Union successfully disintegrated, it was messy because it wasn't planned. A planned disintegration would have been better. Lets do that.
Basically, the reason is to avoid war and the security nightmare that is having multiple countries in north America.
If there is an incomplete transfer of power, and the blue regime is permitted to survive, you can be certain it will be vindictive. There's the matter of our foreign clients as well. I suspect they would side with whoever promises to continue security guarantees and provide technology - with red being isolationist and tech mostly in blue coastal states, that's a problem. The question I'm really worried about is weather starving out the coastal strongholds is as easy as a lot of populists seem to believe. Those are port cities. They can ship in grain.
And I'm one to hate on California too, but I wouldn't underestimate my enemy. California has some of the most productive agricultural land, and it's the cradle of tech companies that service the entire globe. The rust belt still needs to be rebuilt - California needs to get its shit together. To any sort of monarch, California would seem extremely enticing. Of course, the agricultural productivity of California is driven by water taken from further inland, which only creates another seed of conflict.
A planned disintegration is much more likely to work than unilaterally declaring independence but you're still going to have to make compromises to avoid war and becoming collectively weaker, and I would still recommend some sort of alliance/union to try and keep foreign interference off the continent. This will mean years of negotiations and swallowing some pride, and you have to be prepared for that.
This is true and the certain results of separation are wars of Reunification and foreign entanglements of foreigners here, the geography will not allow any nation here in North America less than Atlantic to Pacific.